Comments on: Spovangelist Voter’s Guide http://spovangelist.com/spovangelist-voters-guide/ You are not alone. Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:51:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tea Party Fever Pitch http://spovangelist.com/spovangelist-voters-guide/comment-page-2/#comment-11288 Tea Party Fever Pitch Sun, 18 Apr 2010 02:03:15 +0000 http://spovangelist.com/?p=635#comment-11288 [...] There I was, sitting on the sunny steps of the Spokane Convention Center, listening as my friend John Waite (who lost in the primary race for City Council against Nancy McLaughlin last year) got booed for [...] [...] There I was, sitting on the sunny steps of the Spokane Convention Center, listening as my friend John Waite (who lost in the primary race for City Council against Nancy McLaughlin last year) got booed for [...]

]]> By: Spowind http://spovangelist.com/spovangelist-voters-guide/comment-page-2/#comment-7748 Spowind Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:09:58 +0000 http://spovangelist.com/?p=635#comment-7748 Sure. Any person who can't handle the simple rules of the PDC can not hanlde the complex rules of the RCW. He is not fit for public office; at least not yet. A great deal of other candidates got it right; why not Mike Allen? The rule applies across the board in my book. Sure. Any person who can’t handle the simple rules of the PDC can not hanlde the complex rules of the RCW. He is not fit for public office; at least not yet.

A great deal of other candidates got it right; why not Mike Allen?

The rule applies across the board in my book.

]]> By: Justin Galloway http://spovangelist.com/spovangelist-voters-guide/comment-page-2/#comment-7646 Justin Galloway Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:33:11 +0000 http://spovangelist.com/?p=635#comment-7646 Mr. SpoWind. It looks like your predictions were fairly accurate and left you with 2 candidates you would not want in the 2nd district. As you may know by now, Mike Allen is nearly a week late in filing his C-4 (report detailing expenses and contributions for 9/1-10/12) with the PDC. Any comments? Mr. SpoWind. It looks like your predictions were fairly accurate and left you with 2 candidates you would not want in the 2nd district. As you may know by now, Mike Allen is nearly a week late in filing his C-4 (report detailing expenses and contributions for 9/1-10/12) with the PDC. Any comments?

]]> By: SpoWind http://spovangelist.com/spovangelist-voters-guide/comment-page-2/#comment-6583 SpoWind Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:43:49 +0000 http://spovangelist.com/?p=635#comment-6583 Without Elected officials with diligence and integrity it is only a matter of time before we will be into another River Park Square (which BTW we will be paying just under 3 million per year until 2027. In 2027 we will have NOTHING TO SHOW FOR the money spent. Not a square inch of ground, not a retail outlet or even a garage.) Without citizens willing to hold elected officials accountable, it is only a matter of time before we elect another majority on city council or on the county commissioners that will sell us out in order to appease the powerful. Power tends to corrupt unchecked power corrupts absolutely. I could not have been more disappointed in some of the responses. I presented valid, verifiable, concerns about three candidates. Only one person agreed with my concerns. Everyone else opted to ignore or dismiss the evidence and attack me. Until Spokane voters are willing to look at the facts and ignore candidate charisma or familiarity, we are doomed to repeat the same pattern of rule by the powerful at the expense of the many. Research, reason then vote as if your children’s future depends on it; it does. SpoWind Without Elected officials with diligence and integrity it is only a matter of time before we will be into another River Park Square (which BTW we will be paying just under 3 million per year until 2027. In 2027 we will have NOTHING TO SHOW FOR the money spent. Not a square inch of ground, not a retail outlet or even a garage.)

Without citizens willing to hold elected officials accountable, it is only a matter of time before we elect another majority on city council or on the county commissioners that will sell us out in order to appease the powerful. Power tends to corrupt unchecked power corrupts absolutely.

I could not have been more disappointed in some of the responses. I presented valid, verifiable, concerns about three candidates. Only one person agreed with my concerns. Everyone else opted to ignore or dismiss the evidence and attack me.

Until Spokane voters are willing to look at the facts and ignore candidate charisma or familiarity, we are doomed to repeat the same pattern of rule by the powerful at the expense of the many.

Research, reason then vote as if your children’s future depends on it; it does.

SpoWind

]]> By: Dazzeetrader http://spovangelist.com/spovangelist-voters-guide/comment-page-2/#comment-6549 Dazzeetrader Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:13:07 +0000 http://spovangelist.com/?p=635#comment-6549 VOReason, Contrarian has done a near perfect job of defining precisely the terms so important to any biological, scientific, political, etc discussion. If the issues, terms, etc cannot be defined, there's no point in continuing because each particpant will be speaking in on-specific terms when specificity is exactly what's needed. Makes for "squishy" talk with no firm conclusions....and it's stiffling when trying to communicate. I don't know anyone on this bog. I do know a quality, trained mind when I see one though. Contrarian isn't just some overblown windbag. He's very exact when he dissects an issue. Most in politics/science/philosophy aren't. "Pseudo-intellectual" is what people frequently charge when they're out of bullets in a discussion......or just too lazy or disinclined to continue. "Cliches" might have some truth in them but that's not why they're called "cliche". A better, more apt idea might be this: it's what most people say so frequently, the verbage is stale without lots of thought required. ie ...it's just a canned statement heard so often, it's "cliche".....basically adds nothing. Well, when I began the comment section on Spov's blog, it went far afield when what was supposed to be a discussion of the candiates and each's potential for leadship in growth. Well done everyone. Some commentors fell by the wayside and did that early. SOme had some thoughts suitable for the "peanut gallery". I hope there's some growth in the candidates who prevail come Novermber. It's the best we can hope for. In the world, there's no sitting still or stasis,...it's the rule these days that a city grows or gradually dies off. Best wishes. Daisy VOReason, Contrarian has done a near perfect job of defining precisely the terms so important to any biological, scientific, political, etc discussion. If the issues, terms, etc cannot be defined, there’s no point in continuing because each particpant will be speaking in on-specific terms when specificity is exactly what’s needed. Makes for “squishy” talk with no firm conclusions….and it’s stiffling when trying to communicate.

I don’t know anyone on this bog. I do know a quality, trained mind when I see one though. Contrarian isn’t just some overblown windbag. He’s very exact when he dissects an issue. Most in politics/science/philosophy aren’t. “Pseudo-intellectual” is what people frequently charge when they’re out of bullets in a discussion……or just too lazy or disinclined to continue.

“Cliches” might have some truth in them but that’s not why they’re called “cliche”. A better, more apt idea might be this: it’s what most people say so frequently, the verbage is stale without lots of thought required. ie …it’s just a canned statement heard so often, it’s “cliche”…..basically adds nothing.

Well, when I began the comment section on Spov’s blog, it went far afield when what was supposed to be a discussion of the candiates and each’s potential for leadship in growth. Well done everyone. Some commentors fell by the wayside and did that early. SOme had some thoughts suitable for the “peanut gallery”. I hope there’s some growth in the candidates who prevail come Novermber. It’s the best we can hope for. In the world, there’s no sitting still or stasis,…it’s the rule these days that a city grows or gradually dies off. Best wishes.

Daisy

]]> By: FreeSpokane » Blog Archive » Encyclopedia of Political Nonsense http://spovangelist.com/spovangelist-voters-guide/comment-page-2/#comment-6422 FreeSpokane » Blog Archive » Encyclopedia of Political Nonsense Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:49:09 +0000 http://spovangelist.com/?p=635#comment-6422 [...] to those who answer to special interests.” (From a comment by “Voice of Reason” here. Scroll down to comment [...] [...] to those who answer to special interests.” (From a comment by “Voice of Reason” here. Scroll down to comment [...]

]]> By: SpoWind http://spovangelist.com/spovangelist-voters-guide/comment-page-2/#comment-6419 SpoWind Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:53:42 +0000 http://spovangelist.com/?p=635#comment-6419 My prediction was was mostly right. I said: <i><b>District #2: Jon Synder for the win and Mike Allen second. Eugster for third.</i></b> <cite>Well I blew it on Eugster but get this, Kristina Sabestinas could overtake Allen in the next two days and I would be really wrong...It is very close and GOP folks do better after the election than DNC.</cite> I said: <i><b>District #3: Nancy McLaughlin for the win by a wide lead; Karen Kearny comes in at a distant second. Waite and Lampert duke it out for third. </i></b> <cite> Lampert was not a factor but Waite was indeed third. </cite> Waite has very little chance to beat Kearney and she should distance her lead on Wed and never look back. <b> McLaughlin is going to win the race in Nov anyway, by a big margin.</b> No one is perfect... My prediction was was mostly right.

I said: District #2: Jon Synder for the win and Mike Allen second. Eugster for third.

Well I blew it on Eugster but get this, Kristina Sabestinas could overtake Allen in the next two days and I would be really wrong…It is very close and GOP folks do better after the election than DNC.

I said:
District #3: Nancy McLaughlin for the win by a wide lead; Karen Kearny comes in at a distant second.
Waite and Lampert duke it out for third.

Lampert was not a factor but Waite was indeed third.

Waite has very little chance to beat Kearney and she should distance her lead on Wed and never look back.

McLaughlin is going to win the race in Nov anyway, by a big margin.

No one is perfect…

]]> By: SpoWind http://spovangelist.com/spovangelist-voters-guide/comment-page-2/#comment-6405 SpoWind Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:21:46 +0000 http://spovangelist.com/?p=635#comment-6405 <cite>Gee Voice of Reason what is it with you? When someone has a good argument, you care not to address, you just either call him or her names or you state you don’t have time. Why can’t we be blessed with this supposed wisdom you imply exist between your mastoid regions? <b>I’m still waiting for an answer from you why a publisher would make up an ad that didn’t have a Paid for by Statement </cite></b> You stated: <I>“As a graphic artist at a newspaper, I can assure you that many candidates forget their “Paid For” statements at the bottom of their ads. I’m constantly putting it on the ads for them.”</I> It is a reasonable question to ask why a publisher and editor in chief wouldn’t place the all-important statement in ads in his own publication! As you state so succinctly,<I> “In fact, the publications that ran John’s ads this way bear some responsibility, as do the salespeople who handled the account.”</I><b> That of course would be Jon Synder Publisher of Out There Monthly.</b> You gave no response because there is no reason that is not damaging to Synder. <b>It is much easier to ignore or silence as inquisitor than it is to face the fact that either Synder did not follow the basic instructions of the Public Disclosure Commission or as a Publisher, ignored the law. </b> <b>Either way, there is no answer you had the heart or grey matter to handle. </b> Instead you take the big fat coward’s way out; insult and run away. You remind me of Eric Cartman “Screw you guys, I’m going home. You called me a ”Feeb” which might be true, we shall see. If it is true however, this “Feeb” just routed you in argument and outed you as a coward. Does that make you a “Dekafeeb”? "Voice of Reason" Gee Voice of Reason what is it with you? When someone has a good argument, you care not to address, you just either call him or her names or you state you don’t have time. Why can’t we be blessed with this supposed wisdom you imply exist between your mastoid regions? I’m still waiting for an answer from you why a publisher would make up an ad that didn’t have a Paid for by Statement
You stated:
“As a graphic artist at a newspaper, I can assure you that many candidates forget their “Paid For” statements at the bottom of their ads. I’m constantly putting it on the ads for them.”
It is a reasonable question to ask why a publisher and editor in chief wouldn’t place the all-important statement in ads in his own publication! As you state so succinctly, “In fact, the publications that ran John’s ads this way bear some responsibility, as do the salespeople who handled the account.” That of course would be Jon Synder Publisher of Out There Monthly.
You gave no response because there is no reason that is not damaging to Synder. It is much easier to ignore or silence as inquisitor than it is to face the fact that either Synder did not follow the basic instructions of the Public Disclosure Commission or as a Publisher, ignored the law.
Either way, there is no answer you had the heart or grey matter to handle.
Instead you take the big fat coward’s way out; insult and run away.
You remind me of Eric Cartman “Screw you guys, I’m going home.
You called me a ”Feeb” which might be true, we shall see. If it is true however, this “Feeb” just routed you in argument and outed you as a coward. Does that make you a “Dekafeeb”?

“Voice of Reason”

]]> By: The Voice of Reason http://spovangelist.com/spovangelist-voters-guide/comment-page-2/#comment-6393 The Voice of Reason Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:29:30 +0000 http://spovangelist.com/?p=635#comment-6393 Contrarian - Forgive me that I don't have time for long winded, pseudo-intellectual answers where I parse all the subtleties known to man. You may feel that my response is "canned" or cliché, but the reason something becomes a cliché is because of the truth held within. I wish I had the time to go into more detail, but this is only a blog with a few reasonably intelligent people involved and I can't stay here and bang my head up against a wall of your dogma. I have far, far better things to do. I wish you all the best and good luck in the elections folks! Contrarian – Forgive me that I don’t have time for long winded, pseudo-intellectual answers where I parse all the subtleties known to man. You may feel that my response is “canned” or cliché, but the reason something becomes a cliché is because of the truth held within.

I wish I had the time to go into more detail, but this is only a blog with a few reasonably intelligent people involved and I can’t stay here and bang my head up against a wall of your dogma. I have far, far better things to do.

I wish you all the best and good luck in the elections folks!

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